Please Do Now:
- Go back to http://roomfordebate.blogs.nytimes.com/2009/02/10/battle-plans-for-newspapers/?hp and read the responses of Fouhy and Rodriguez.
- How does the following quote apply to The Beachcomber? “Economic models? There’s no one size fits all. Advertisers seem to like Newcastlenow in affluent Westchester County but there’s not enough revenue to pay either the editors or contributors; the same is true at the Forum. In San Diego where voiceofsandiego journalists are paid, they use a modified public radio model; memberships for readers willing to contribute for first rate journalism, six figure contributions from philanthropic-minded citizens and grants from local foundations. About 10 percent of the annual $840,000 budget comes from advertisers.”
- And this one: “University-affiliated papers, too, may play larger roles in coverage beyond their campuses. They may become legislative watchdogs as more newspapers close their state house bureaus. Perhaps they will collaborate with seasoned professionals to do investigative and other public service journalism.
Philanthropic groups have already stepped up to finance nonprofit reporting organizations, and some bloggers are starting to cover local news, which is increasingly ignored by bigger papers. “
Today, students will:
- Peer review with some combination of the following jobs: Fact checker, Attribution police, Objectivity patrol, Big Picture person.
- Conduct additional reporting.
Tonight’s homework is:
- First drafts due Monday.
26 responses so far ↓
allisonnovack // February 19, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
Fouhy is saying that there is no total solution to the problem and whichever way you try to solve it, there will be flaws with how the money is made, how much is made, and who it is distributed to properly. He mentions that much of the money in that newspaper site has come from grants or donations…or ads. Maybe the beachcomber needs to look further into recieving money from the outside.
Rodriguez says that local smaller newspapers will maybe start to cover greater news. He also mentions that alot of the news stories that should be covered are slowly becoming ignored because of peolpe who try to make their papers more unique and readable. Small newspapers such as the beachcomber can cover other local news around Beach high with broader stories, and maybe our “non profit” organization would be endorsed…
allisonnovack // February 19, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
Fouhy is saying that there is no total solution to the problem and whichever way you try to solve it, there will be flaws with how the money is made, how much is made, and who it is distributed to properly. He mentions that much of the money in that newspaper site has come from grants or donations…or ads. Maybe the beachcomber needs to look further into recieving money from the outside.
Rodriguez says that local smaller newspapers will maybe start to cover greater news. He also mentions that alot of the news stories that should be covered are slowly becoming ignored because of peolpe who try to make their papers more unique and readable. Small newspapers such as the beachcomber can cover other local news around Beach high with broader stories, and maybe our “non profit” organization would be endorsed…
allisonnovack // February 19, 2009 at 4:01 pm |
Fouhy is saying that there is no total solution to the problem and whichever way you try to solve it, there will be flaws with how the money is made, how much is made, and who it is distributed to properly. He mentions that much of the money in that newspaper site has come from grants or donations…or ads. Maybe the beachcomber needs to look further into recieving money from the outside.
Rodriguez says that local smaller newspapers will maybe start to cover greater news. He also mentions that alot of the news stories that should be covered are slowly becoming ignored because of peolpe who try to make their papers more unique and readable. Small newspapers such as the beachcomber can cover other local news around Beach high with broader stories, and maybe our “non profit” organization would be endorsed…
allisonnovack // February 19, 2009 at 4:02 pm |
i defniately did not mean to post that 3 times…oops
biancac2010 // February 19, 2009 at 4:03 pm |
The Beachcomber does not have the money to pay all the people whom contribute to it. The Beachcomber receives money from donations, ads, etc. The second quote is explaining how newspapers and journalists are adapting to the current situations. Instead of fighting it they are going with it. Team collaboration and partnerships are rising and as the article mentions, bloggers are focusing on loacl news, usually ignored by the major newspapers.
lenac2011 // February 19, 2009 at 4:03 pm |
The majority of the money that the Beachcomber gets is from selling advertisements to companies and other places. People do not often send in contributions or donate money to the paper so I do not think that the paper could survive on just donations.
The big thing of the Beachcomber is to make everything be related to Beach High in some way or another. People are interested in it because of the local news it presents and because it shows what is going on at the school. Other people may be interested in this news but at some point they care more about local news that pertains to the whole community and not just the school.
kevins2011 // February 19, 2009 at 4:04 pm |
2. The quote applies to the Beach Comber because the money the Beach Comber makes comes from donations and advertisements. The article said that “10 percent of the annual $840,000 budget comes from advertisers.” The Beach Comber does not get sufficient money from advertising as well.
3. This quote applies to the Beach Comber because it talks about University newspapers stepping out and writing about bigger news. The Beach Comber also includes news that is bigger than just within the school.
jessicaw2010 // February 19, 2009 at 4:05 pm |
This first quote applies to the Beachcomber because this newspaper too is going through this economic (financial) problem. Usually the Beachcomber got it’s money from their advertisers and now since these advertisers are losing money due to the economy it is harder for them to pay money to advertise in our newspaper. This of course is affecting the Beachcomber and is one of the reasons we are almost bankrupt.
The Beachcomber doesn’t cover news that is really reported in bigger newspapers. News from the Beachcomber has to do with our school and deals mainly with local news. By having news that is not reported in bigger newspapers, there is no other way for people to get their news besides for reading the newspaper. This is one way to solve the problem because if we make the Beachcomber worth reading, that has news other people can’t get through other sources, the newspaper will be in somewhat better shape.
xkatastrophe // February 19, 2009 at 4:07 pm |
The first statement from Fouhy says there is no concrete solution that works for everyone in this economic situation. He says that money from grants and donations help and the Beachcomber might benefit from seeking money from places other than the school, though chances are slim.
The statement by Rodriguez says that we need to cover more important topics that involve a larger group of people. If we tie in issues from our school to larger more important issues that apply to other people and impact them, maybe we will have a better chance of getting donations.
7y13r // February 19, 2009 at 4:07 pm |
Fouhy is saying that right now, there isn’t just one way to do things or make money. He mentions donations, which would certainly be viable for the Beachcomber if they could indeed be found.
Rodriguez discusses how a lot of smaller stories and sponsors are being dropped by the larger publications, leaving a gap that maybe the Beachcomber could fill.
Lauren Peterson // February 19, 2009 at 4:07 pm |
Fouhy is saying that there is no official solution to permanently fix and destroy the problem and whichever way you try to solve it, there will be mistakes and flaws with how the money is made, how much is made, and who it is distributed to properly. He mentions that much of the money in that newspaper site has come from grants or donations…or ads. Maybe the beachcomber needs to look further into recieving money from the outside. Students donations will clearly not w0rk, just look at the peers around you. They are incredibly greedy and would only take out a dollar for food, and that would be pastelitos.
Rodriguez says that local smaller newspapers will maybe start to cover greater news. He also mentions that alot of the news stories that should be covered are slowly becoming ignored because of peolpe who try to make their papers more unique and readable. Small newspapers such as the beachcomber can cover other local news around Beach high with broader stories, and maybe our “non profit” organization would be endorsed. We really need to change the things we write about, so they will appeal to the students. They’d rather read pop culture related articles than information about their school
hkramer14 // February 19, 2009 at 4:08 pm |
The Beachcomber can’t keep on surviving from donations from advertisements. We have been doing that all year, and right now we have like a dollar in the account. Look where its got us! Into trouble, doing this exercise, trying to find money to print the next issue. We need to find a more legitimate way to find money. If we do, this will end all the struggling. Mr. Fouhy says there is no way to do this, and that there will always be flaws.
hrynor // February 19, 2009 at 4:10 pm |
The Beachcomber receives it’s money from selling advertisements to companies and businesses, and therefore the paper would not be able to survive on just donations, as it is already struggling with donations and ads.
No one way will be able to solve our economic status, we will have to try several different ways in order to find a few that are successful. Another words, don’t bet all your money on one solution to work, because it can always back fire and you should always have a plan B.
Our newspaper is centered around our high school, however, it is not diverse enough where we could begin selling it to the students and make a good deal of money off or it. We would need to begin writing articles that appeal to the whole population of beach high, and for those who don’t like reading we should attempt to catch their attention in some other way. There are very few people in the immediate area that would pay money for the paper as it does not relate to them, however, if we start writing a few articles as it relates to the whole city not only Beach High then we can begin selling it to the public.
molliee // February 19, 2009 at 4:12 pm |
“Economic models? There’s no one size fits all. Advertisers seem to like Newcastlenow in affluent Westchester County but there’s not enough revenue to pay either the editors or contributors; the same is true at the Forum. In San Diego where voiceofsandiego journalists are paid, they use a modified public radio model; memberships for readers willing to contribute for first rate journalism, six figure contributions from philanthropic-minded citizens and grants from local foundations. About 10 percent of the annual $840,000 budget comes from advertisers.”
this qoute applies to the beachcomber because the money that the beach comber makes from donations and advertisments also applies to the qoute. Not alot of people donate money so i think that we would have to find another altenative. this also applies to us because we could get grant funding.
“University-affiliated papers, too, may play larger roles in coverage beyond their campuses. They may become legislative watchdogs as more newspapers close their state house bureaus. Perhaps they will collaborate with seasoned professionals to do investigative and other public service journalism.
Philanthropic groups have already stepped up to finance nonprofit reporting organizations, and some bloggers are starting to cover local news, which is increasingly ignored by bigger papers. “ this qoute applies to the beachcomber because it talks about how we cover the news. the beachcomber can cover local news.
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RayL2012 // February 19, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
Fouthy is saying that there are multiple ways to get money. However, he mentions that there will always be flaws in our solution. For example, he mentions donations, but we have been advertising and taking donations and now we have one dollar and fifty cents in the beachcombers account.
brittanywaserstein // February 19, 2009 at 4:14 pm |
The first quote applies to the Beachcomber because the way this newspaper gets money is by three ways: philanthropists, local organizations and advertizers. A substantial amount of the money from our newspaper is from advertizers. This quote mainly talks about raising money for the newspaper where the second quote talks about the news that is written about but in order to raise money, local news that interests readers is crucial. The second quote applies to the Beachcomber because we write about local news that occur in our own society. This interests the readers because they are curious about what happens everyday around them.
gwenxawesome // February 19, 2009 at 4:15 pm |
I think the first quote, is just simply saying that there is no business model that can completely fit all newspapers. All newspapers have different styles and charecteristics, and have different things that they need to improve on.
The second quote is saying that the local/school newspapers are starting to cover
yamileyl2009 // February 19, 2009 at 4:29 pm |
Unfortunately, the Beachcomber doesn’t get a significant amount of money from donations so if it would had to rely on just that, the paper will not be circulating for much longer.
On the other hand the second quote proposes a more local coverage that would create interest on the paper.
sebastianh2011 // February 19, 2009 at 4:30 pm |
The relevance of both quotes is the idea of a news organization (be it the Beachcomber, Newcastlenow.org or any other) should not rely only on advertisers and suscribers for their budget but also look for alternatives like receiving donations, applying for grants etc…
Also both articles make great emphasis in the relevance of local and niche reporting.
Kelsey Sumalla // February 19, 2009 at 4:31 pm |
The quote applies to the Beachcomber because it says that no one size fits all, which is true for our paper. Not every type of economic model fits for our newspaper. Also it says “About 10 percent of the annual $840,000 budget comes from advertisers ” which is where most of the money for our newspaper comes from.
The second quote applies to the Beachcomber because the Beachcomber writes about more local news , which is usually ignored by big papers.
alexandrab2012 // February 19, 2009 at 4:33 pm |
The first quote is explaining how these newspapers get money from donations and advertisements. Our newspaper does get money from companies who want to advertise, but we do not, however, recieve too many donations.
The beachcomber provides the readers with local news. Larger newspaper companies give the readers a more world-based news. Our newspaper has readers beacuse it is so local, and it has things that the larger newspapers do not provide.
alicel2011 // February 19, 2009 at 4:33 pm |
What Fouhy is saying is that there is not a one size fits all solution. So, basically a solution that might have worked for one paper is not going to work for another. MOney is always going to be an issue becuase the ad’s sold are not enough to pay for the editors and journalist. Most of the money that the paper gets is from grants and money that people donate it. In the Beachcomber we have had parents who have donated money already. So maybe we can try that again or just ask the PTSA for a grant or something. What Rodriguez is saying is that newspapers like the BEaccomber should tagert local news. News that bigger newspapers have stopped reporting. Like local games, or city hall meetings, or dadeschools meetings. We could also do reviews of places that have just opened around Beach. By covering local news paper people would want to buy the paper. Or even better yet want to donate money to the paper.
jessekirk11 // February 21, 2009 at 9:52 pm |
As we have seen in the past, basing the Beachcomber’s budget solely on ad revenue does not necessarily work, and it is important that funding is derived from several different sources, like grants and donations. Currently, nearly 100% of our budget is from advertisements, which aren’t reliable sources.
The second quote can relate to the Beachcomber in that the newspaper not only holds news pertinent to Beach High, but it also touches on global or national issues, with a kind of local flavor.
rachelcoller // February 21, 2009 at 10:21 pm |
Quote 1 describes the importance of getting money from many different places, most importantly modest donors, philanthropists, advertisements…etc. Obviously money from ads isn’t going to be enough, the beachcomber needs to try to find alternate ways to raise money. The beachcomber could potentially benefit from grants.
Quote 2 relates to the beachcomber because the beachcomber is a local paper. It addresses topics in a more personal way that the locals could connect with and be interested in.
nadineg2012 // February 22, 2009 at 2:05 pm |
The first quote suggests that newspapers get money from sources other than advertising, including grants from local foundations, large donations, and profits from memberships. While the Beachcomber will most likely never receive “six figure contributions from philanthropic-minded citizens,” we may choose to apply for grants, ask for modest donations, or charge for subscriptions.
The second quote stresses the importance of reporting on local news in small publications/blogs (like ours) because several larger newspapers are beginning to ignore it for financial reasons. This definitely applies to the Beachcomber because we usually already do cover local news.
patrickquinlan // March 13, 2009 at 12:41 pm |
1, The beachcomber could rely on either massive philanthropic benefactors, like public radio and tv do, and we can also rely on small donations, Like Barack Obama does.
2. Other groups, like bloggers, may have to take the “watchdog investigator” role of credible newspapers. Also, College Papers are good, but I don’t understand how they apply to us, as we are in a non-profit house of education which CAN’T pay our bills and fees, whereas College papers are in private institutions with LOTS of money.